under the rules for elections under -- i did get in the e-mail, under division, section one, under subsection c -- let's see here, get back there, c4 to the discussion chair of voting for secretary, treasurer, finance, may be conducted by a show of hands or other means of division. it shall be endowed if the chair so shall elect or be endowed to the result of vote by division upon request of 25% of the dnc members voting in person or proxy, it can be conducted by roll call. >> i would like to ask if the secretary can be heard before we continue the proceedings. is there objection? >> thank you. hearing none, the secretary has the floor. [background sounds] [inaudible conversations] >> at this appointment, leaving the coverage of the winter meeting of the democratic national committee to return to live coverage of the u.s. senate. we do want to let you know that coverage of the dnc will continue on our website. go to c-span.org. senators are about to return from their weekly party lunches, and we'll bring you live coverage of the senate as they return here on c-span2. while we wait for the sen